Jesus said ” The one who endures to the end will be saved “. This is probably a fair representation of the form of first-century Christian worship. A church is like a body; it can be big and strong or it can be big and unhealthy. As a rule, most large churches hardly behave like a one-man or one-woman show. So what happens when a church starts to grow? First, the critics of megachurches are rarely practicing what might be called “biblical” forms of church. PEOPLE DON’T LIKE MEGA CHURCHES BECAUSE THESE PASTORS ARE MAKING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, BUYING REAL ESTATE WITHOUT ANY TAX WHATSOEVER. Studies continue to show that megachurches keep getting bigger and there are more of them every year. Southeast Christian grew significantly after its founder left. The paradox is that large churches keep getting larger and smaller at the same time. And while I haven’t led a gigantic church personally, I’m founding pastor of a large church (1,500) and this criticism always chased our ministry. Amazingly, even the largest Catholic Church, St Ann, and the biggest church in membership, Second Baptist Church Houston, which has over 64,000 members, are in Texas. Throughout inner cities, suburbs, remote locations, and more -- megachurches are raising up new congregations in amazing numbers. There may be a day where large churches are no longer an effective way to share Christ with others. When the church no longer equips the saints for the works of the ministry, but spoon feeds and entertains the masses for church growth and more numbers, it misses the point. There are actually teams of highly skilled leaders around the point leader. How can we have congregations with effective leaders and still have all people participate in edifying others? Share this. Period. A little background, I pastor a church that is a Open Network church that uses resources from Life.Church and Craig Groeschel. Ditto with the church. Churches are meant to be small, tightly knit communities, not splashy corporations. I try not to engage the trolls and the haters in the comments on my blog (engaging them just gives them what they want). And occasionally, when small churches start to reach new people, they become midsize churches. (10 Lessons From A Church Whose Groups Are Exploding), CNLP 396: David Salyers on How Chick-fil-A Grew During a Pandemic, How to Add Value That 10x Results and Why Sales are as Controllable as Costs, 5 Post-Pandemic Church Growth Accelerators, 4 Types Of Thinking That Will Sabotage Your Leadership, CNLP 395: Seth Godin Shares His Secrets Behind Creative Work, Top Tips for Communicators and How He Learned to Think the Way He Thinks. I would love an in-depth, behind-the-scenes walkthrough of how LC does leadership development. I try not to engage the trolls … It’s just simplistic and illogical thinking. If there’s one thing I learned from blogging about the church, it’s that some people hate megachurches. In the meantime, though, if they continue to lead people into a growing relationship with Jesus, why stop them? Megachurches tend to be predominantly white, although black people are also well-represented in both the laity and in the top ranks; Creflo Dollar, Eddie Long, T. D. Jakes, and Charles Blake are among the more prominent black megachurch pastors. It really breaks my heart to see people bashing other churches or church leaders, no matter why they do it. I wish I was making this up. Look at Orthodoxy-even persecution and the deaths of many priests and faithful under communism failed to stop it! Stop attending contemporary services. (In my view, you’re not helping anyone with that kind of argument.). This is a list of the largest megachurches in the United States with an attendance of more than 2,000 weekly. If you’re against church growth, you’re against the basic mission of the church: to reach people. Opinion: Why I hate Dolly Parton's music; Some Capitol rioters believed they answered God's call, not just Trump's; Entertainment // Mark Morford - Notes & Errata. And many other very large churches have gone through changes in leadership successfully. A religion professor predicted that megachurches would one day resemble abandoned retail stories “on the edge of town” because they were so expensive to maintain, and a younger generation wanted a more intimate worship experiences. Kirchengemeinde mit wöchentlich mindestens 2000 Besuchern bezeichnet. You’ll discover people who have placed their faith in Jesus and who are being transformed by the love of God (and you’ll discover that in small and midsize churches too). In reality, far more small churches are one-man or one-woman shows than large churches. The launch of new, smaller campuses, and smaller worship spaces are models many megachurches are adopting. The amount of time wasted insulting a different method of doing church breaks my heart (and delights the devil, I’m sure). … I preach, and still do, you can hate Trump, but not all the people who like him. The pressure to live up to all of your expectations frustrates me.” No two megachurches are alike, Jakes said, and the size of the church shouldn’t define the pastor. Why? We never set a goal to be mega – only effective. I am hyper aware that a huge majority of the public communication coming out of LC rests on Craig. He does uses us broken humans, broken ministers to fulfill His will, to build His kingdom in Earth, for centuries He has done that. If you go to a megachurch, you will discover thousands of people whose lives look more like Jesus a few years down the road than they ever did before. We have a phone number a website and an email address. It’s far more likely that a small church or a mid-sized church (say 400-600) is a one-person show because it IS possible for the leader to do pretty much everything. Database of Megachurches in the U.S. People who say large churches are one-man shows don’t understand large churches—period. The paradox is that large churches keep getting larger and smaller at the same time. To give you a sample of what megachurch leaders hear regularly, take this comment that was posted on my blog in response to my post last week: Wish these guys would get wise and start obeying Scripture and follow the New Testament model of interdependent churches under presbytery rule with representatives. Opinion: Why Hollywood megachurches like Hillsong hide their true teachings. We need to be familiar with GOD’s idea of love not the world’s, before we can show people true Christian love. Better yet, the spiritual health of church members, which you mention here. Then what? That breaks down entirely once your church is larger than 1,000 in attendance. With over 6 million downloads, The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership Podcast features today’s top leaders and cultural influencers. It’s so easy to confuse the method with the mission and preferences with principles. The Hartford Institute for Religion Research defines a megachurch as any Protestant Christian church having 2,000 or more people in average weekend attendance.. My guess is most don’t get up at 5 a.m. each day before work, get together with other Christians to pray and promise each other that they won’t cheat on their wives, that they’ll care for the poor and stay faithful to Jesus. When you think of large churches and megachurches, what comes to mind? My guess is most don’t get up at 5 a.m. each day before work, get together with other Christians to pray and promise each other that they won’t cheat on their wives, that they’ll care for the poor and stay faithful to Jesus. Large churches are doing a better and better job of making things smaller too. into a growing relationship with Jesus, why stop them”, I love this! You build a monster, you get devoured. Carey and his wife, Toni, reside near Barrie, Ontario and have two children. Did they approach you or vice versa? I am one the founding pastors of a church that is considered “mega”, but we began with just a few families and a handful of college students. What is a disciple? Kitchener has this amazing group called CityWatch, which is a group of church leaders who meet monthly to pray, worship and chat about what’s happening in our churches. I’ve been on staff at 4 different churches – 2 megachurches and 2 small(ish) church plants and they really aren’t all that different. The gospel of comfort and entertainment has produced a church that is three thousand miles wide but only three inches deep. There’s a reason why churches and denominations are in decline. If you go to a megachurch, you will discover thousands of people whose lives look more like Jesus a few years down the road than they ever did before. The one guy leading the singles group I attended (before I got married) actually suggested sleeping with someone first before you got married to see if you two would be a good “fit”. After all, it’s a pretty insulting accusation. I’m just not sure the argument stands up, though. We have almost two millennia of Holy Tradition to stand on. It’s just simplistic and illogical thinking. And while I haven’t led a megachurch personally, I have led a large church (1000+) and this criticism always chased our ministry. This is probably a fair representation of the form of first-century Christian worship. And even a more recent study shows churches over 250 in attendance are more likely to be growing and seeing people become Christians. This article originally appeared on CareyNieuwhof.com. Regrading “mega” churches, I have only attended one for about 6 months so I am anything but an expert on the subject however, my experience was that because it was so big, many of the “leaders” they had placed in charge of small groups, singles groups, etc were not trained very well and some, in my opinion, should not have been leaders at all. I’ve noticed, on the “one-man show” point that this happens in most congregations–not because one person is actually running things, but because one person is the focal point. But I’m not. If you want to jeopardize the mission, never change your method. A simple note to the pastor was redirected to his assistant who basically ignored the note. And as counterintuitive as it may seem, you can like something run by [jerks] without being one yourself.” Back to Friday’s episode, Bill … No. First of all, if you think the people who attend large churches are all blind sheep, why don’t you ask them if that’s the case? As far as Craig goes, when you get to hear that guy in a no holds barred context, you quickly understand (and feel) why he is where he is. GET REAL. At best, you have a few hundred years, or in the case of the non-denominationals, a few generations. It’s too crowded.”. So what happens when a church starts to grow? Now WE are the church planters of an online presence, and that is mostly possible because of Craig and LC’s most generous Open Network resources, and the Church Online Platform. God bless you and I hope I have not come off as arrogant, just trying to refute some of your ideas a bit. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. The launch of new, smaller campuses and smaller worship spaces are models many megachurches are adopting. Als erste Megachurch gilt die Yoido Full Gospel Church in Südkorea. Even on a simple logical level, saying all megachurches are bad is like saying all small or midsize churches are bad. Jesus actually gave us a very practical test that helps us tell. Share on Facebook Share on Twitter. By contrast, capable leaders avoid poorly-led organizations and churches. Or you become a monster. Mit Megachurch wird, insbesondere in den Vereinigten Staaten, eine evangelikal-protestantische Einzelgemeinde bzw. Over half are evangelical. 6:1), and have the biggest churches, then I get very concerned. This is a great article Carey! I “studied” the website to find the correct address but again the destination was a generic address so I never got a response or acknowledgement. It is true that our churches are apostolic and practice what has been handed down centuries earlier and that contributes to our churches grow big and bigger each day. We could drop names on many of the leadership, and I will in fact drop one. Thank you! The database below contains information on all the megachurches we have been able to locate in the United States. In other words, look at someone’s life for the evidence. Most megachurches are non-denominational or keep their denominational roots fairly well hidden. Mr Alexi Hoehle, I am a Roman Catholic. If there’s one thing I learned from blogging about the church, it’s that some people Megachurches. Knowledge makes you arrogant. He is omniscience ! Megachurches: Ein lukratives Business oder eine gerechtfertigte Bezahlung? I hate megachurches probably about as much as Cain hated Abel for similar reasons. (The times I have been to MegaChurches, they are completely white or black. They breed heresy, they have abandoned the truth of the Bible and they care more about numbers and budgets than they do souls and eternity.” You’ve probably heard that characterization before. How will you know if they are spiritually growing?”, I think if you put any church, small, large, or mega, under the microscope, you will see the flaws. CHRISTIANITY IS A CULT. Church leaders come from all different sizes, from the largest in our area to some of the smallest and from all different denominations. A … Our church is healthier, better led, and more spiritually intense as a direct result. Drew Goins. This is a really insightful comment on multiple levels Brad. It is because of God in the name of Jesus Christ, not primarily because of any human agents. In reality, far more small churches are one-man or one-woman shows than large churches. I was wondering with the Payroll Protection Plan why megachurches are receiving money ahead of small businesses and why they’re receiving money at all. My church plant is launching in 4 weeks and I have aspirations of reaching thousands of people with a life-giving church. I assume you’re going to say that mega churches typically plant more churches than smaller churches – but I didn’t know if you had any solid facts or stats on that? In fact, your church will never sustainably grow to 1000 people if it’s a one-person show run entirely by the leader. When we first started, the church was 4 campuses and we had no clue what a “mega-church” was. As the church apparently records and broadcasts services I can understand this to an extent but when one factors in the lighting, music sound system, acoustic treatments, as well as the structure itself it is clear that a great deal of money went into the construction as well as ongoing maintenance. They want to be well led in church because that’s what they’re used to in the marketplace and in life. In fact, your church will never sustainably grow to 1,000 people if it’s a one-person show run entirely by the leader. I find it hard to see fake churches being healthy.. Carey, this is a good reminder. I’m glad for you and other trying to move the discussion away from church size to church health. Your comment that “knowledge does not equal love sounds a little deceptive. But I've also noticed … I try not to engage the trolls and the haters in the comments on my blog (engaging them just gives them what they want). Knowledge, as the Apostle Paul pointed out, is not spiritual maturity. […]. “Ditto with the church. A while back, someone left this comment about some large church pastors who burned out: “Wish these guys would get wise and start obeying Scripture and follow the New Testament model of interdependent churches under presbytery rule with representatives. Burnout of megachurch pastors probably saves souls. What is your thought on that? I worked with cults in years past and the primary reason most people end up in one is because of lack of maturity. Christ Fellowship in Florida is thriving after its founder left. I try not to engage the trolls and the haters in the comments on my blog (engaging them just gives them what they want). While it may be true that Millennials love relationship and smaller gatherings, the truth is people in every demographic continue to flock to megachurches. I’ll take my church with it’s 60 year old building that could use a lot of work anytime. Then again there are plenty of small churches guilty of that and some megachurches are NOT guilty of that. As a rule, most large churches hardly behave like a one-man or one-woman show. They’re used to leaders and teams of leaders who know how to make critical decisions, to advance a collective cause, and who can lead and manage complex organizations. His messages are consistent, for all people of all eras and times. how did your church get aligned with LC? His most recent book is Didn’t See It Coming: Overcoming the 7 Greatest Challenges That No One Expects and Everyone Experiences. We've seen 40 years of the Walmart effect -- consolidation rather than expansion. Love this idea and practice Samuel. Tweet this. 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